And that fear may be part of why shows like Julie and the Phantoms don’t get renewed despite building solid fanbases. Rodriguez says the Netflix series, which dropped in 2020, at the start of the pandemic, was really important for her daughter. “Julie and the Phantoms is [about] losing her mother, finding friends through music and inspiration, [and that] really helped a lot,” Rodriguez says, especially during a time of so many Covid-19-related deaths. “We became fans to the point where we watched the show 1,000 times.”